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+26GoodBooksGoodFriends Arwen LilyBart Emjy Constance kary Shelbylee Miss Virginia sandie Fanny Elwing Diana Maribel WithinMyDreamingSide Scarlatiine Titine75 AnGee Anne Dashwood JenniferEhle lilypad Satine Marmeladedelivres Miss Charlie Alice Liddell Akina resmiranda 30 participants | |
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Shelbylee Bookworm
| Sujet: Re: Guerre et Paix - nouvelle adaptation de la BBC Dim 13 Sep - 14:51 | |
| Personnellement, je trouve les affiches retouchées hideuses et / ou ridicules (la tête de James Norton, le pauvre) Mathieu Kassovitz sera... Napoléon ! La série sera bientôt présentée dans un festival donc on devrait avoir des avis. _________________ |
| | | lilypad Delicious silence
| Sujet: Re: Guerre et Paix - nouvelle adaptation de la BBC Dim 13 Sep - 19:09 | |
| Oh, Aurélien WIIK était annoncé en tant que Napoléon... Dommage... |
| | | Emjy Bookworm
| Sujet: Re: Guerre et Paix - nouvelle adaptation de la BBC Jeu 17 Sep - 9:35 | |
| @ Lilypad : Aurélien Viik a bien un rôle dans la série _________________ |
| | | kary Locataire de Netherfield
| Sujet: Re: Guerre et Paix - nouvelle adaptation de la BBC Jeu 17 Sep - 10:17 | |
| Bizarrement je n'aime pas du tout ces visuels... Mais bon, ça ne veut pas dire que je ne regarderai pas la série !
J'ai hâte ! |
| | | Emjy Bookworm
| Sujet: Re: Guerre et Paix - nouvelle adaptation de la BBC Jeu 17 Sep - 11:08 | |
| Oui, les visuels rappellent un peu ce qu'ont pu faire HBO ou Strarz ... Personnellement, ils ne me choquent pas plus que ça mais je préfère les photos dévoilées avant. _________________ |
| | | Emjy Bookworm
| | | | kary Locataire de Netherfield
| Sujet: Re: Guerre et Paix - nouvelle adaptation de la BBC Mer 23 Sep - 21:39 | |
| C'est fou ce qu'elle vieillit bien, Gillian Anderson ! Elle n'a pas changé en 20 ans ! C'était le post hyper constructif de Kary... Sinon c'est vrai que c'est étrange ce changement de distribution de Napoléon. Au fait je ne sais pas si ça a été dit mais la série aura un format différent dans chacun des pays où elle sortira (épisodes de 60 min, ou 45 min, voire 1 h 30 pour un autre pays, mais je ne me rappelle plus des détails). |
| | | Emjy Bookworm
| Sujet: Re: Guerre et Paix - nouvelle adaptation de la BBC Jeu 24 Sep - 14:52 | |
| Elle a peut-être vendu son âme au diable, qui sait ^^ _________________ |
| | | Emjy Bookworm
| Sujet: Re: Guerre et Paix - nouvelle adaptation de la BBC Jeu 24 Sep - 16:31 | |
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| | | Scarlatiine Bookworm
| | | | JenniferEhle Swoon addict
| Sujet: Re: Guerre et Paix - nouvelle adaptation de la BBC Jeu 24 Sep - 20:35 | |
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| | | Marmeladedelivres Star-crossed lover
| Sujet: Re: Guerre et Paix - nouvelle adaptation de la BBC Dim 27 Sep - 20:32 | |
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| | | Emjy Bookworm
| Sujet: Re: Guerre et Paix - nouvelle adaptation de la BBC Dim 27 Sep - 20:47 | |
| J'attends cette scène de bal avec impatience ! Et sinon, le gif du Prince Andrei de meilleure qualité source : _________________ |
| | | Fanny Bookworm
| Sujet: Re: Guerre et Paix - nouvelle adaptation de la BBC Lun 28 Sep - 9:11 | |
| Merci pour toutes ces nouvelles images. Ça promet!! _________________ |
| | | Emjy Bookworm
| Sujet: Re: Guerre et Paix - nouvelle adaptation de la BBC Lun 28 Sep - 18:20 | |
| De rien, Fanny ! Voici la photo du bal de meilleure qualité : Et voici un bout d'interview du producteur Simon Vaughan, que je trouve très intéressante (on apprend notamment qu'il y aura très peu d'effets spéciaux et que la série a été tournée dans de vrais décors ) - Citation :
- You always need a bit of magic with casting, and a little bit of luck. Our core trio is Paul Dano, who is an indie-film-actor’s actor; Lily James, who is extremely talented and has a huge commercial profile; and James Norton, who is probably one of the most exciting British actors we’ve had for years. That was the main emphasis. Everything else has to support that. Where the luck comes in is in Gillian Anderson wanting to do it, Jim Broadbent wanting to do it, and you start to build an ensemble that, when you put it all together, really adds up to something.
It’s been pretty much [filmed] in Russia, Latvia and Lithuania, substantially shot on location—so real palaces, interior and exterior, and worlds that you couldn’t dream of building. You could give us ten times this budget and we wouldn’t have been able to build anything remotely approaching the scale and the size of the real buildings we’ve been able to shoot in. There is some CGI, but we don’t rely on it. It’s pretty epic. It looks great: everything is there, all the performances feel good and it finished on time and on budget, exactly as planned. It’s a huge, huge miracle! And now the post-production process is the next miracle that has to be performed to get the whole thing finished and ready for broadcast in the early part of next year. War and Peace must be an event.
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| | | kary Locataire de Netherfield
| Sujet: Re: Guerre et Paix - nouvelle adaptation de la BBC Lun 28 Sep - 21:00 | |
| Ah, la scène du bal !! Merci pour ces belles images ! Est-ce qu'on a une date de diffusion finalement ? Je verrai bien une diffusion pour le mois de décembre plutôt que janvier pour ce genre de série. Sinon il faudra encore prendre son mal en patience... |
| | | Emjy Bookworm
| Sujet: Re: Guerre et Paix - nouvelle adaptation de la BBC Mar 29 Sep - 8:48 | |
| Je crois que la diffusion est prévue pour janvier. Il me semble que la BBC prévoie plutôt de diffuser son adaptation de And then there were none de Christie en décembre _________________ |
| | | Emjy Bookworm
| Sujet: Re: Guerre et Paix - nouvelle adaptation de la BBC Dim 4 Oct - 9:53 | |
| Une interview très intéressante d'Andrew Davies sur son travail de scénariste sur Guerre et Paix : - Citation :
- Ranked as one of the best novels ever written, Leo Tolstoy’s epic War and Peace, detailing the lives and loves of a group of aristocratic families in early 19th-century Russia, has been a frequent source of inspiration for film and television producers. The latest in a line of adaptations is set to hit screens in early 2016. The BBC One commission was penned by Andrew Davies, the acclaimed British screenwriter who is best known for bringing a series of classic novels—among them Pride and Prejudice and Little Dorrit—to television. Made by BBC Cymru Wales in partnership with The Weinstein Company, Lookout Point Productions and BBC Worldwide, the series will have a U.S. simulcast on A+E Networks’ three flagship channels, HISTORY, Lifetime and A&E. Davies gives TV Drama an inside look at the process of bringing a new take on Tolstoy’s tome to viewers across the globe.
TV DRAMA: Had you thought about adapting War and Peace before BBC approached you with the project? DAVIES: It hadn’t been on my mind. In fact, I’d been thinking, it’s about time I got around to reading it! It’s something I had been saving up for many decades! It was a nice surprise when Faith Penhale [head of drama at BBC Cymru Wales] asked me if I’d be interested in adapting it. I said, I have to read it first. So I took it away on holiday with me and read it and enjoyed it very much. I found it to be a much more approachable, lively, almost modern book. And then we began the big process of chopping it up into parts and making a drama out of it. TV DRAMA: How did you go about condensing the story into eight parts? DAVIES: With all these things, I just try and soak the novel up and think about, Who do I love in this novel? Whose story is it really? Who do we want to concentrate on particularly? And sometimes it’s just one person. With War and Peace, it’s really three characters who fascinate us. Pierre is right at the center. He’s a puzzled seeker of the meaning of life who unexpectedly finds himself one of the richest men in Russia, from having been a disregarded, illegitimate son. Then there’s Natasha, who is the lovely, innocent, much-loved young daughter of a very cozy family, the Rostovas. And there’s Prince Andrei, who had been brought up in a very austere environment. He’s apparently quite cold and contemptuous, a bit of a Mr. Darcy. Those three, their lives are all intertwined with each other. I tried to make every scene either have them in it or relate to them in some way. I built the whole drama around them and their families and friends and the people they fall in love with. TV DRAMA: You’ve said that there is more comedy in War and Peace than most people realize. How did you bring that element to the adaptation? DAVIES: It is there. Pierre is quite funny really. He’s got this contradictory nature and he’s so earnest and determined to do well. He says to his friend Andrei, “The wine and the women, I will give them up!” And then he thinks, no, I’ll just have one night off. Then he launches into the most enormous, debauched night of drinking and fighting. And then he’s terribly sorry the next morning. He wakes up with a terrible hangover and everybody is cross with him. It turns out he’s done awful things like tying a policeman to a bear and throwing them both in the river. It is funny! [Laughs] I’m amazed people haven’t found the novel funny before! TV DRAMA: Were there aspects of the novel that were more challenging to adapt than the previous literary works you’ve brought to television? DAVIES: The scale of [the novel] is huge. The history is quite complicated. It was about finding a way to tell the historical and the war sides of it really clearly and simply, without distorting it and without being too shorthanded about it. Really the key lies in seeing everything through the eyes of our principal characters. Tolstoy goes in for quite a bit of straight history in his book. I thought it was very important to go into all these battles and explore the pros and cons of things through the eyes of characters that we know and care about. It was difficult to do that, but I think I managed it.
TV DRAMA: Can you take more liberties when working with a translation as opposed to adapting Charles Dickens or Jane Austen? DAVIES: Because one’s working with a translation, one doesn’t feel absolutely bound to use the lines of dialogue in the book. It’s a translation anyway, so I can use my own language, what I feel fits the period and also makes the right impression for the audience.
Tolstoy didn’t choose to write all the scenes, so I’ve written quite a lot he didn’t include in the book. Scenes with Natasha and her cousin Sonya together—I like writing those scenes of girls in their nighties talking about love. I wrote various other scenes that are implied in the plot that Tolstoy didn’t dramatize. TV DRAMA: How does the budget for War and Peace compare with your previous adaptations? DAVIES: It’s been bigger than anything I’ve done before. Mind you, that doesn’t put it on the scale of a blockbuster movie budget. But I guess it’s getting up to twice the budget I’m used to working with. And that’s been great. I’ve been encouraged to write big, as it were. We had to pull back from some things. There’s a scene in the book in which a whole regiment of Polish cavalry, in order to impress Napoleon, drive their horses into the river. They get swept away and half of them drown. [The producers] said, “Write it!” [Laughs] But we couldn’t really afford to drown an army of Polish cavalry, so that didn’t happen. But mostly we’ve used amazing, authentic locations in St. Petersburg, which you wouldn’t normally be able to do on a BBC budget. And we have big armies and loads of horses and so on. TV DRAMA: There have been several adaptions of the novel in the past. Did you go back and watch any of them? DAVIES: I avoided watching the Russian adaptation, partly because I thought I might get too influenced. I watched a bit of the BBC one from the 1970s. That seemed awfully slow and stodgy, apart from Anthony Hopkins’s performance, which is still electrifying. But other than that, it doesn’t feel fresh, it doesn’t feel lively. I thought, I can do much better than that! The American film from the ’50s with Audrey Hepburn and Henry Fonda is not a good movie. And the casting is terrible. Henry Fonda is 20 years too old for the part he’s playing. You have to be quite arrogant really [to embark on an adaptation like this]. If you go into it feeling timid and thinking, What are people going to think?, it’s no good. You have to go into it thinking, I’m going to do the best one that’s ever been done! And so far I still think that! [Laughs] But we’ll have to wait and see what the audience and the critics think when it comes out. I’m enormously pleased with the results. It looks great. source : _________________ |
| | | WithinMyDreamingSide Locataire de Netherfield
| Sujet: Re: Guerre et Paix - nouvelle adaptation de la BBC Dim 4 Oct - 10:34 | |
| Merci pour cette interview intéressante. Après, sa dernière intervention me fait tiquer : j'ai trop vu de réalisateurs annoncer sans ambages que toutes les adaptations précédentes d'une œuvre littéraire était nulles (Tim Burton pour Alice, pour ne citer que lui) et que grâce à eux on pourrait enfin visionner une adaptation de qualité (et on a vu ce que ça a donné dans le cas précité !) pour un résultat au final franchement décevant ! Même si je comprends l'idée derrière, qui est de ne pas s'annoncer vaincu d'avance, je reste assez dubitative. (Et je trouve ironique qu'il ait eu peur d'être trop influencé par l'adaptation de Bondartchouk (j'imagine que c'est celle-là dont il parle ?), qui a la réputation d'être un peu dans un style pompier, vu ce qu'il dit de celle de 70, mais passons. ) |
| | | Emjy Bookworm
| Sujet: Re: Guerre et Paix - nouvelle adaptation de la BBC Dim 4 Oct - 10:42 | |
| Andrew Davis a l'habitude de parler sans langue de bois dans ses interviews, avec une petite pointe d'arrogance parfois, il faut bien l'admettre. Ca ne me surprend pas de lui. Je n'ai pas vu la version de Bondartchouk (trop peur de m'y mettre) mais il me semble qu'elle a meilleure réputation que celle de la BBC (d'un point de vue cinématographique et épique en tous cas) De l'adaptation BBC, tout le monde ou presque semble surtout retenir l'interprétation d'Anthony Hopkins, ce qui n'est pas forcément bon signe pour tout le reste ^^ _________________ |
| | | lilypad Delicious silence
| Sujet: Re: Guerre et Paix - nouvelle adaptation de la BBC Mar 6 Oct - 15:16 | |
| Les quelques images du trailer Youtube que tu as donné Emjy me donnent vraiment envie!!!!! |
| | | Emjy Bookworm
| Sujet: Re: Guerre et Paix - nouvelle adaptation de la BBC Mar 6 Oct - 20:33 | |
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| | | | kary Locataire de Netherfield
| Sujet: Re: Guerre et Paix - nouvelle adaptation de la BBC Mer 7 Oct - 10:50 | |
| Allez, ça va arriver vite ! La question maintenant est de savoir si elle sera diffusée en France, et sur quelle chaîne. Parce que vu la promo qu'ils ont fait, j'espère qu'on aura un diffuseur (distributeur ?) ici !! |
| | | Emjy Bookworm
| Sujet: Re: Guerre et Paix - nouvelle adaptation de la BBC Mer 7 Oct - 11:25 | |
| Oui, ça arrivera peut-être chez nous mais personnellement, je n'attendrais pas jusque là _________________ |
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