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Merci Diana pour la vidéo. Il est encore plus difficile de croire à sa mort en le voyant en entrevue comme cela...
Le mot d'Emma Thompson est très touchant.
Je crois que je vais moi aussi revoir quelques uns de ses films. J'ai revu Die Hard, Harry Potter et Love Actually dernièrement, mais j'ai maintenant envie de découvrir ceux que je n'ai encore jamais vu comme Le majordome ou Les jardins du roi. J'aimerais aussi revoir Blow Dry, que j'ai vu il y a très longtemps, mais dont je ne me rappelle plus trop.
J'avais beaucoup apprécié Snow Cake (très émouvant, avec Sigourney Weaver), Bottle Shock, Truly Madly Deeply et bien sûr en Colonel Brandon. Au moins, il nous a laissé une grande filmographie.
Elwing Reindeer Jumper
Sujet: Re: Alan Rickman Ven 15 Jan - 9:34
J'ai chialé comme une cruche.
Maribel Byronic Hero
Sujet: Re: Alan Rickman Ven 15 Jan - 14:43
Tous les témoignages s'entendent pour dire combien il était généreux, loyal, etc. Ça me rend encore plus triste qu'il soit parti si tôt.
Evanna Lynch (Luna dans HP) a partagé un long message que j'ai trouvé très sincère et touchant. Elle raconte qu'elle ne lui avait jamais vraiment parlé durant le tournage, car le personnage de Rogue, qu'il gardait même entre les scènes, l'intimidait. Ce n'est que plus tard, lors d'un dîner caritatif, qu'elle a eu une vraie conversation avec lui. Elle a été émerveillée de savoir qu'il se rappelait son nom, mais qu'en plus il lui accorde sa pleine attention durant tout le dîner durant lequel ils ont été assis côte à côte. In the hour I sat with him, he managed to be completely present, kind, attentive and curious about someone who did not expect or look for that from him. It says a lot about him, how nice a person he was and what discipline it must have taken to stay in character so much. It must have been hard to play Snape and to have to alienate himself from everyone. It must have been hard to have to stop smiling at people. And uncomfortable to make others so uncomfortable. There aren't that many actors that would go to such lengths for the integrity of their character.
Voici le message, en spoiler.
Spoiler:
I don't have many stories to share about Alan Rickman because, truthfully, I was terrified of him as Snape and throughout the course of the films I always gave him a wide berth. But I wanted to share the brief but significant encounters I had with him. He was probably the only cast member who met my fangirl expectations because everybody else broke character to be nice to me and make me feel welcome to the Potter family, and also to be themselves, while he remained impassively, Snape. So I assumed he WAS Snape and made myself small whenever he went gliding past in those big, shadowy black robes. Among the only people who didn't keep their distance were the throngs of children he used to bring to lunch in the canteen. It was odd that any of the adult actors would lunch in the canteen, but odder still that Snape would, surrounded by a group of giddy little girls and boys. I was told that they were his friends' children and that NO, I would not be allowed to bring that many guests, and nor would anyone but that nobody fancied the task of telling Alan he shouldn't invite his friends' eager young children to the studio on a weekly basis. Thus we all enjoyed the bizarre sight of Snape in his all-black, bat-like glory sitting head and shoulders above a gang of unnaturally unfazed children. For me, these glimpses of Snape chatting quite amiably to young people was the only hint that there was an Alan in there too and that he was in fact very, very nice. It wasn't until a few years later that I had the chance to meet Alan as himself. It was at a charity dinner and our nameplates were next to each other. I started to panic quietly and I even asked another guest would he like to take my seat! But an organiser insisted we sit at our assigned seats and I steeled myself for the most awkward dinner conversation of my life!! I sat down and much to my shock he greeted me warmly and by name. My real name! That put me at ease and after that I was quite happy for him to feign intense interest in his dinner plate rather than make casual chit-chat with me. But he did keep talking to me, asked lots of questions and seemed genuinely interested in my interests and projects. The conversation got round to acting quickly and at the time I was stressing about the pressure I felt to already be a successful actress and that I'd run out of time to make mistakes. I was aware I was talking about myself so I kept trying to shift the conversation back to him but he just wanted to help. He told me he hadn't known what he'd wanted to be out of school, that he'd gone to art school first to be a graphic artist and had come to acting a few years later when he applied for drama school. As an actress, already having to lie about my age at 24, it seems mad that Alan only found his vocation and began his acting journey at 26 and turned out to be…Alan Rickman. But when I told him that I was worried if I didn't figure myself out quickly I would miss the most important opportunities and never get them back, he simply told me that I was focusing on the wrong thing. He said not to worry about getting 'there' and instead to focus on feeding my soul and following my heart from place to place. And then he gave me the loveliest acting advice I've ever gotten. 'People think that they're watching this' he said waving his hand in front of his face, 'but really they're watching this' and he pounded his fist on his heart centre. After dinner, I thanked him for the advice though for some reason he rejected the notion that he'd given me any advice (I don't know why) but whatever it was, it truly stuck with me and it made me start living differently, being more in tune with my heart, listening and following its rhythms and wishes and surrendering the need to control my life. After that meeting I thought about him a lot and what a truly lovely, kind, generous person he was. For someone as established, wise and revered as he, the greatest gift you can give someone is your full attention and presence in the moment. Most people of his measure of talent and intellect are extremely busy and are anxious for you to know this. You start to talk to them and their eyes are already darting to the other corners of the room, their fingers reaching for their phone where a million more interesting people are pinging away at their inbox. They can't afford to spend their precious time and entire mental facilities just on you, so mostly they just give you a bit, just for a few minutes. But Alan Rickman was not that at all. In the hour I sat with him, he managed to be completely present, kind, attentive and curious about someone who did not expect or look for that from him. It says a lot about him, how nice a person he was and what discipline it must have taken to stay in character so much. It must have been hard to play Snape and to have to alienate himself from everyone. It must have been hard to have to stop smiling at people. And uncomfortable to make others so uncomfortable. There aren't that many actors that would go to such lengths for the integrity of their character. There were deep and heart-breaking reasons why Snape didn't smile, why he is such a loner and the most stubbornly emo adult ever. I so appreciate the fact that he cared that much about his character, that he didn't dismiss Harry Potter as a 'kids film', a handy job and a sizeable paycheck. He loved and honoured Snape the way all beloved characters deserve and he made the Harry Potter world that much more real for us. I can't quite believe he's not here anymore. I somehow still think actors are immortal like the characters they play but then they leave us. Please honour his memory and what he gave us by talking about and sharing stories and continuing to celebrate his legacy so then he will be here, as we like to say, 'Always'.
Miss Woodhouse Bookworm
Sujet: Re: Alan Rickman Ven 15 Jan - 15:29
Les témoignages affluent et ça fait du bien de vous lire les filles car le nombre de nazes qui me demandent "mais c'est qui alan rickman??"
et il n'a pas joué que le rôle de Severus Rogue !!!!
bref....
Emjy Bookworm
Sujet: Re: Alan Rickman Ven 15 Jan - 19:04
Il y a beaucoup d'hommages rendus par ses pairs mais j'avais envie de partager avec vous celui de l'acteur Sean Biggerstaff, qui a été découvert par Alan lui-même :
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In 1994 I, an 11-year-old idiot, walked into a rehearsal room in the Old Athenaeum in Glasgow and was welcomed by the fucking Sheriff of Nottingham in a voice which made the room tremble. We sat down and my audition started, reading straight off the page dialogue so unavoidably brilliant that all you needed to do was read it straight off the page.
I did not get the part. I was too young. I did, however, receive a long, hand-written letter from Joyce Nettles, the casting director, thanking me for auditioning and expressing regret that it hadn’t worked out. The only time this has ever happened. I think Alan may have had something to do with that. Two years later he was back, looking to cast the same parts in the film version of the same play. Now I was not too young and in the Winter of 1996 I spent two months (off school!) in the beautiful East Neuk of Fife, making a goddamn movie directed by Alan Rickman, written by Sharman MacDonald starring Emma Thompson, shot by Seamus McGarvey etc etc etc, working with all manner of brilliant people, some of whom are close friends and occasionally colleagues to this day. Just sickeningly lucky. When I left school and wanted to try and do this sort of thing for a living, Alan arranged a meeting with his agent. The first audition that agent got me was for Harry Potter. When I arrived at Leavesden Studios for the first time and met David Heyman for the first time, he told me he’d just had a call from Alan telling him how wonderful I was and that he’d be mad not to hire me. He hired me. When we got on set, (That set. That fucking glorious world of Jo Rowling’s mind brought to life so that we could walk around in it and touch it and be part of showing it to the entire world.) Alan introduced me to practically every great British actor I’d ever heard of. Telling them, “this is my boy.” When I told him how much I’d enjoyed the production of Private Lives he was in, he invited me and my best mate to New York to stay with him for a weekend and see it again. He booked shows for us to see every night, he took us on boat rides, he showed us the Big Apple. When my friend Donny wrote a play that he wanted me to be in, I sent it to Alan, hoping for some advice on where we might get it put on. He received it when he was stepping on a plane. When he landed he emailed me back, having read the whole thing and loved it. Two days later we received a printed copy of the play with mountains of suggested edits, cuts and thoughts scrawled across it in his handwriting, and a two page letter with praise for Donny and advice on who to take it to. He did the same for the next four drafts. This. Never. Stopped. In twenty years, all my experience of Alan was like this. He’d be on a mad press trip round the world, having just finished a broadway show and be about to start shooting a film - with several other projects as an actor, director, writer, board member, mentor bubbling away in the background - and if I needed anything he would immediately spend hours of his time helping me. AND, amazingly, I know of at least a dozen other people who had this same relationship with him. He was our fairy Godfather. He was the whisper in the right ear at the right time. He was the reassuring message when he sensed, always correctly, that we needed it most. He was new head shots or carpets or travel money when times were tough. How he found the time, let alone the will for all this is a mystery to me. He was the most generous, wise, supportive, talented, charismatic, empathetic person I think I’ve ever known. The last time I saw Alan he had, unbeknownst to me, been in hospital for the previous ten days. He got out that morning…and kept our theatre date. In a strange way I’m glad of that frightening episode, as it made me realise that even he was a mortal of flesh and blood and a certain age and he might not always be there. That evening when we parted, I hugged him and told him I loved him and I’m very glad of that now. On monday morning I will start rehearsals for a new play. It will be the first time since I was thirteen years old that I have engaged in such a project without being able to call on Alan for advice and support and I am utterly terrified. I can only hope that enough has rubbed off that I’ll be able to take it from here. I’m honestly not so sure… Goodnight, Alan. I will miss you every day.
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Shelbylee Bookworm
Sujet: Re: Alan Rickman Ven 15 Jan - 19:27
C'est très émouvant.
Le témoignage de Ian McKellen qui montre lui aussi quelle belle personne était Alan Rickman.
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There is so much that is matchless to remember about Alan Rickman. His career was at the highest level, as actor on stage and screen and as director ditto. His last bequest of his film “A Little Chaos” and his indelible performance as Louis 14th, should now reach the wider audience they deserve. Beyond a career which the world is indebted to, he was a constant agent for helping others. Whether to institutions like RADA or to individuals and certainly to me, his advice was always spot-on. He put liberal philanthropy at the heart of his life. He and Rima Horton (50 years together) were always top of my dream-list dinner guests. Alan would by turns be hilarious and indignant and gossipy and generous. All this delivered sotto, in that convoluted voice, as distinctive as Edith Evans, John Gielgud, Paul Scofield, Alec Guinness, Alastair Sim or Bowie, company beyond compare. When he played Rasputin, I was the Tzar Nicholas. Filming had started before I arrived in St Petersburg. Precisely as I walked into the hotel-room, the phone rang. Alan, to say welcome, hope the flight was tolerable and would I like to join him and Greta Scacchi and others in the restaurant in 30 minutes? Alan, the concerned leading man. On that film, he discovered that the local Russian crew was getting an even worse lunch than the rest of us. So he successfully protested. On my first day before the camera, he didn’t like the patronising, bullying tone of a note which the director gave me. Alan, seeing I was a little crestfallen, delivered a quiet, concise resumé of my career and loudly demanded that the director up his game. Behind his starry insouciance and careless elegance, behind that mournful face, which was just as beautiful when wracked with mirth, there was a super-active spirit, questing and achieving, a super-hero, unassuming but deadly effective. I so wish he’d played King Lear and a few other classical challenges but that’s to be greedy. He leaves a multitude of fans and friends, grateful and bereft. -- Ian McKellen, London, 14 January 2016There is so much that is matchless to remember about Alan Rickman. His career was at the highest level, as actor on stage and screen and as director ditto. His last bequest of his film “A Little Chaos” and his indelible performance as Louis 14th, should now reach the wider audience they deserve. Beyond a career which the world is indebted to, he was a constant agent for helping others. Whether to institutions like RADA or to individuals and certainly to me, his advice was always spot-on. He put liberal philanthropy at the heart of his life. He and Rima Horton (50 years together) were always top of my dream-list dinner guests. Alan would by turns be hilarious and indignant and gossipy and generous. All this delivered sotto, in that convoluted voice, as distinctive as Edith Evans, John Gielgud, Paul Scofield, Alec Guinness, Alastair Sim or Bowie, company beyond compare. When he played Rasputin, I was the Tzar Nicholas. Filming had started before I arrived in St Petersburg. Precisely as I walked into the hotel-room, the phone rang. Alan, to say welcome, hope the flight was tolerable and would I like to join him and Greta Scacchi and others in the restaurant in 30 minutes? Alan, the concerned leading man. On that film, he discovered that the local Russian crew was getting an even worse lunch than the rest of us. So he successfully protested. On my first day before the camera, he didn’t like the patronising, bullying tone of a note which the director gave me. Alan, seeing I was a little crestfallen, delivered a quiet, concise resumé of my career and loudly demanded that the director up his game. Behind his starry insouciance and careless elegance, behind that mournful face, which was just as beautiful when wracked with mirth, there was a super-active spirit, questing and achieving, a super-hero, unassuming but deadly effective. I so wish he’d played King Lear and a few other classical challenges but that’s to be greedy. He leaves a multitude of fans and friends, grateful and bereft. -- Ian McKellen, London, 14 January 2016
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Emjy Bookworm
Sujet: Re: Alan Rickman Ven 15 Jan - 19:30
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Seirên Overbearing Master
Sujet: Re: Alan Rickman Ven 15 Jan - 20:40
Cet homme avait décidément bien des qualités et n'était pas seulement un grand acteur...c'est ce qui faisait, une grande partie de son charme, Alan Rickman reste pour moi, une des incarnations de la classe à l'anglaise, avec un petit grain d'originalité qui le rendait incomparable.
@Miss Woodhouse: comme je te comprends...c'est dommage de réduire cet acteur a un simple rôle. Certes, son rôle de Rogue a marqué toute une génération mais il savait jouer bien des personnages: à ce jour, son shérif de Nottingham reste mon favori Je regrette de ne l'avoir jamais vu sur scène car il semblait être un grand comédien sur les planches...
Maribel Byronic Hero
Sujet: Re: Alan Rickman Sam 16 Jan - 15:55
Dernièrement, Alan Rickman a fait la narration d'une vidéo pour Save the Children et le refugee Council. Tous les revenues publicitaires liés au visionnement de cette vidéo iront à ces œuvres de charité.
Emjy Bookworm
Sujet: Re: Alan Rickman Jeu 21 Jan - 20:07
Merci Maribel !
Un hommage très attendrissant de Kate Winslet aux derniers London Critics Circle Awards :
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Maribel Byronic Hero
Sujet: Re: Alan Rickman Jeu 21 Jan - 22:19
C'est très émouvant, merci Emjy!
didyousaybooks Bookworm
Sujet: Re: Alan Rickman Mer 3 Fév - 15:38
Quelle perte immense, je pense que personne ne diras le contraire.
Il avait l'air d'être si gentil, en plus d'être plus que talentueux...
Merci pour la vidéo de Kate Winslet. J'avais bien lu quelques condoléances, dont celle de Daniel Radcliffe également, mais je n'avais pas regardé de vidéo, car je trouve ça bien trop triste. Et c'est bien le cas avec celle de Kate et je resterai pendant un petit moment sans en voir et rester sur sa petite anecdote qui fais un peu de bien même en étant si triste.
Diana Bookworm
Sujet: Re: Alan Rickman Sam 24 Sep - 9:13
Le 4 octobre 2022 sortira le journal d'Alan Rickman : Madly, Deeply: The Alan Rickman Diaries Selon le Guardian, il a tenu un journal assez concis dès 1972, qui est devenu plus important en 1992 avec des remarques sur ses différents tournages, notamment les films Harry Potter Il y a plusieurs extrait de son journal sur le guardian aujourd'hui Il a illustré certaines pages de son journal, comme les pages ci-dessous.
Et ci-dessous, comment Alan Rickman a réussi à acheter le tout dernier livre Harry Potter sans faire 10 heures de queue
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DViolante Mad Hatter
Sujet: Re: Alan Rickman Sam 24 Sep - 12:04
Je suis très impatiente de le découvrir !!
Arwen Bookworm
Sujet: Re: Alan Rickman Sam 24 Sep - 21:03
DViolante a écrit:
Je suis très impatiente de le découvrir !!
+1
sandie Bookworm
Sujet: Re: Alan Rickman Lun 26 Sep - 7:46
Je suis très tentée également ! Les dessins sont superbes
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Miss Woodhouse Bookworm
Sujet: Re: Alan Rickman Mer 28 Sep - 12:57
Il nous manque à tous !
Arwen Bookworm
Sujet: Re: Alan Rickman Mer 28 Sep - 13:49
Oui, il nous manque, et en plus la couverture de ses mémoires est très bien choisie, je trouve !
Miss Woodhouse Bookworm
Sujet: Re: Alan Rickman Mer 28 Sep - 14:14
Ho que oui !
Melwasul Indian Shawl
Sujet: Re: Alan Rickman Jeu 29 Sep - 8:39
J’espère que nous aurons la chance de l’avoir un jour en VF
sandie Bookworm
Sujet: Re: Alan Rickman Ven 30 Sep - 7:30
Oui, cette couverture est superbe Et je croise aussi les doigts pour une VF, même si j'ai peu d'espoir : j'ai l'impression qu'en dehors des acteurs français ou des stars hollywoodiennes, les (auto)biographies d'acteurs étrangers ne sont pas trop éditées en France Mais peut-être qu'il va y avoir un effet Harry Potter pour celle-ci...
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Diana Bookworm
Sujet: Re: Alan Rickman Ven 30 Sep - 20:51
sandie a écrit:
Et je croise aussi les doigts pour une VF, même si j'ai peu d'espoir : j'ai l'impression qu'en dehors des acteurs français ou des stars hollywoodiennes, les (auto)biographies d'acteurs étrangers ne sont pas trop éditées en France Mais peut-être qu'il va y avoir un effet Harry Potter pour celle-ci...
C'est malheureusement très souvent le cas. J'ai lu la plupart des biographies et autobiographies d'acteur/d'actrices en VO car elles sont très très rarement traduites. L'effet Harry Potter jouera peut être
La couverture est vraiment très belle, je pense que c'est une photo prise de l'acteur au moment du film Truly, madly, deeply
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Melwasul Indian Shawl
Sujet: Re: Alan Rickman Sam 1 Oct - 12:17
C’est ce que je me suis dit aussi : l’effet Harry Potter peut nous laisser un petit espoir !
Diana Bookworm
Sujet: Re: Alan Rickman Mar 1 Nov - 15:34
Je me suis dévouée et j'ai lu le journal d'Alan Rickman, et je ne le regrette pas Son journal est passionnant et nous fait suivre sa vie et sa carrière depuis 1993 jusqu'à sa mort.
Son journal est très intéressant car il nous fait découvrir de l'intérieur le processus du tournage des films, les luttes incessantes avec scénaristes et réalisateurs pour changer ou empêcher de changer des dialogues et des scènes et le rendu final qui n'est pas toujours à la hauteur (aux yeux d'Alan Rickman en tout cas).
Ainsi, on se rend compte que certains tournages ont été assez pénibles (Mesmer, Raspoutine) et d'autres absolument parfaits. C'est surtout le film Le parfum avec Ben Whishaw qui remporte la palme, avec un tournage parfait, des acteurs brillants et un résultat à la hauteur de ses expériences (j'approuve!)
Il ne s'est pas tellement épanoui non plus pendant les tournages d'Harry Potter où il s'est qualifié, avec le reste du casting des "adultes ": des "glorified extra" mais reconnait avoir toujours été en admiration envers Daniel Radcliffe, jeune acteur sympathique, sérieux et travailleur. A savoir que très tôt, il a imposé dans son contrat une présence de 7 semaines maximum pour chaque film, ce qui lui permettait de faire autre chose.
Également surprenant et très touchant, le fait qu'Alan Rickman, grand acteur reconnu, était très souvent en admiration devant d'autres acteurs ou chanteurs, et note dans son journal sa joie d'avoir rencontré tel acteurs. On peut voir également sa solide amitié avec Emma Thompson avec qui il a tourné plusieurs films et son admiration envers Kate Winslet qu'il a connu lorsqu'elle avait 19 ans et qu'il a retrouvé en tant qu'acteur quand elle en avait 35 ans.
On peut suivre aussi ses différents voyages (une année, il indique avoir pris 27 fois l'avion pour des tournages! ) et sa vie quotidienne, entre ses différents appartements, sa maison en Italie (qui semble être toujours en travaux), sa vie avec sa compagne etc..
Je recommande donc chaudement le journal d'Alan Rickman en espérant bien sur qu'il soit traduit prochainement pour ceux qui ne peut pas le découvrir en VO.
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Shelbylee Bookworm
Sujet: Re: Alan Rickman Mar 1 Nov - 17:33
Merci pour ton retour qui donne fabuleusement envie. Il y a l'autobiographie de Gabriel Byrne qui est sortie en français donc je ne vois pas pourquoi celle-ci ne sortirait pas. Croisons les doigts.