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Sujet: Re: Lady Chatterley BBC 2015 Ven 28 Aoû - 9:19
J'ai vu celle de Pascale Ferran qui m'avait beaucoup plu. Mais le pire du pire, c'est que je n'ai toujours pas lu le roman ! Je voulais me lancer dans une lecture comparée des trois versions et au final, je n'ai toujours rien lu !
Sujet: Re: Lady Chatterley BBC 2015 Ven 28 Aoû - 9:26
J'ai lu L'Amant de Lady Chatterley et Lady Chatterley et l'homme des bois, avec une préférence pour le 2ème qui a d'ailleurs inspiré Pascale Ferran pour son film (que j'ai beaucoup aimé aussi) Le film a son topic ici si tu veux donner ton avis
Sujet: Re: Lady Chatterley BBC 2015 Ven 28 Aoû - 9:46
Oui, je savais que le film de Pascale Ferran était inspiré de la 2ème version du roman. C'est d'ailleurs grâce au film que j'avais découvert les différentes versions. Il faudrait vraiment que je me mette à la lecture du roman... Cette adaptation va réactiver mon envie au moins !
Sujet: Re: Lady Chatterley BBC 2015 Dim 30 Aoû - 8:17
Richard Madden et James Norton parlent du tournage et de leurs personnages dans cet article du Daily Mail :
With his sullen eyes and rippling torso, Richard Madden is set to give Poldark’s Aidan Turner a run for his money as TV’s new Sunday-night topless heart-throb.
Playing lusty gamekeeper Mellors in the BBC’s new adaptation of Lady Chatterley’s Lover – the DH Lawrence novel that shocked the world and provided one of the most memorable trials ever in English law – he’s the natural heir to the tousle-haired Cornish tin miner.
There are just three sex scenes in the show, but 29-year-old Madden says, ‘It’s not one for my mother. I said, “I don’t think you’re going to want to watch this Mum.”
She said, “Why, is there a lot of nudity?” I said, “There’s not actually a lot of nudity per se.” She said, “Will there be noises?” And I said, “There might be noises.” So she said, “I’ll not watch it then.”’
The show stars James Norton as Sir Clifford Chatterley, a paralysed First World War veteran, and Holliday Grainger as his wife Constance. Because of his physical limitations and his desperation for an heir, Sir Clifford encourages Constance to seek a liaison with a man of her own class, but instead she embarks on an affair with their gamekeeper, the former miner Oliver Mellors.
Lawrence first published the book in Italy in 1928, but a full unexpurgated edition wasn’t released here until 1960 when the explicit sex scenes and the breathtaking number of expletives led to the unsuccessful prosecution of the novel’s publisher, Penguin, under the Obscene Publications Act and made the encounters between Constance and Mellors infamous.
The BBC adaptation, which is part of a run of literary adaptations including An Inspector Calls and Cider With Rosie, is scheduled against the first episode of ITV’s final series of the rather prim Downton Abbey.
Although not aiming to shock, there’s no doubt it will seem racy by comparison, especially when Lady Chatterley is being ravished in the rain in her nightdress in a scene in which Mellors performs a sex act on her outside his cabin.
While producer Serena Cullen says, ‘I think we are quite rude’ and that she’s ‘never seen anyone do the things Mellors does to Lady Chatterley on TV’, the sumptuous 90-minute drama is aimed more at swooning females with its Poldark-style scenes as Mellors works away topless in the woods.
But Madden is used to this. In his former role as Robb Stark in Game Of Thrones there were lots of graphic sex scenes with his wife Talisa. So surely Lady Chatterley’s Lover was water off a duck’s back? ‘Sex scenes are never water off a duck’s back,’ he laughs.
‘I’ve done many, but everything I’ve done sexually on screen is because it’s character-driven. So in Lady Chatterley I’ve tried to show elements of Mellors’ personality which you wouldn’t see if you weren’t in a very intimate relationship.
‘I think there are certain sides of you that come out during sex and when you are post-coital. In these sex scenes you see his huge vulnerability and joy – I think that’s when Mellors is at his best because this physical intimacy is such a huge part of their relationship.
‘Mellors is a very damaged man in lots of ways – really hard done by in the trenches in the First World War, as many were, and by society and class. When we meet him at the start he’s given up on trying to be part of this world so he has this kind of darkness and quietness.
'But when you’re really in love with someone and you have that great intimate relationship it’s not just lust; the sex is a also a great connection and that’s what drives him and takes him out of this place of resignation.’
But despite the lack of overt nudity, the film has its own erotic electricity – in one scene Mellors strokes his lover’s thigh and tells her, ‘You’ve got a real soft sloping bottom... It’s a bottom that could hold the world up.’ How did his girlfriend at the time Jenna Coleman, Doctor Who’s companion Clara Oswald [they split earlier this year], feel about his love scenes? ‘She was fine about them. We were used to seeing each other with other actors on screen.’ With just two mild swear words, this new version of Lady Chatterley also differs dramatically from the BBC’s last adaptation, by Ken Russell in 1993, which featured the coarse language of the novel and full-frontal nudity from Joely Richardson and Sean Bean as they romped in the woods.
But that version was castigated by critics who called the ‘pornographic’ production a ‘travesty’ with sex scenes akin to ‘ham-fisted assault’. It was a breakthrough role for Richardson, although she objected to the amount of nudity and a scene that saw her on all fours. ‘It could have been done differently,’ she fumed.
Did Madden speak to his Game Of Thrones co-star Sean Bean about the role? ‘No, I didn’t want to,’ he says.
‘I’ve watched the version he was in but I blocked it out of my mind to prevent myself from being influenced by it. I think I had enough source material from the book and Jed Mercurio’s script, which was our main focus. The script was so brilliant it took the massiveness of the role out of it so I just come across as fresh and real and human.’
Mercurio, who’s previous writing credits include the acclaimed Line Of Duty, made significant changes by giving a back story to the novel. As part of this, there’s a ten-minute introduction to the Chatterleys’ glittering courtship and blissfully happy early marriage.
‘Lawrence talks about this mind and body divide but we say that Clifford and Constance had this relationship of the mind but also the body,’ says James Norton, who recently starred in the BBC’s Life In Squares and Happy Valley.
‘These scenes give a context to their relationship so you see when they meet and fall in love, and that makes the whole tragedy more poignant. He’s a bit pompous but I really think if he’d not had this injury they would have been happy.’
There’s a heart-wrenching scene where Sir Clifford suffers painful electric shock treatment to his private parts in a bid to revive him sexually, at least to become fertile enough to father an heir. It’s the last attempt before he resigns himself to the fact Constance will have to sleep with another man from the right social class, little knowing she’ll embark on a shocking affair with Mellors.
‘The scene was terrifying,’ says James, 29. ‘It was a weird moment as I kind of blacked out and didn’t know where I was. I’ve never experienced it before. There are moments when my eyes and veins are popping and that was real and quite scary. It was tough to film emotionally and physically and it shows how far he wanted to go for Constance’s sake, to sire an heir. So it’s deeply sad when he breaks down and says, “I’ve tried, I’ve tried.” It’s a tragedy.’
He had much more fun racing around in Sir Clifford’s motorised wheelchair. ‘We have this take on Clifford that he’s an industrialist, a very successful man who loves machinery and technology. He recently received a motorised wheelchair and in those scenes you see Clifford at his happiest. It was lots of fun for me too. The whoops and wails you hear in the film are genuine – boys with toys. I had a go-kart! In fact, I had so much fun I had to remember to say my lines.’
Sujet: Re: Lady Chatterley BBC 2015 Dim 30 Aoû - 8:51
La scène dont parle James Norton a l'air traumatisante, à voir ce que ça donne à l'écran
Oui, il faudra avoir le cœur bien accroché
Cette version semble déjà très controversée. Il n'y a pas assez de sexe selon certains. Je pense qu'on a fait le tour de la question dans les autres versions. L'adaptation avec Sean Bean et celle de Pascale Ferran ne laissaient pas grand chose à l'imagination. Sinon, je trouve intéressant que Jed Mercurio ait voulu broder autour du passé du couple Chatterley. Hâte de voir ce que ça va donner !
Sujet: Re: Lady Chatterley BBC 2015 Dim 30 Aoû - 16:28
The Guardian a publié une critique plutôt positive de l'adaptation, qu'elle qualifie de subtile :
DH Lawrence’s gamekeeper has cleaned up his act and Sir Clifford is a dish in the BBC’s new morally complex adaptation
The potty-mouthed gamekeeper is back. Oliver Mellors, he of the corduroy breeches, is striding towards us in the shape of Richard Madden (Rod Stark in Game of Thrones) in the BBC’s new version of Lady Chatterley’s Lover. Except that he’s cleaned up his act. Madden’s Mellors is positively bashful when it comes to four-letter words. It’s a decorous “bottom” instead of “arse”, and there’s just one “cock”, right at the end, at which point Lady C is so embarrassed she doesn’t know where to look.
Director Jed Mercurio, who also wrote the adaptation, maintains that there’s no justification these days for bad language. The words that got the book banned for 30 years have lost their original purpose, which was to de-smut sex. This seems sensible.
Less happy, perhaps, is Mercurio’s belief that other parts of Lawrence’s message are unrecoverable. In the novel Mellors has served in the army as an officer and a (temporary) gentleman, which makes his subsequent gamekeeping, and all that “theeing” and “thouing”, a bit annoying to Connie Chatterley, who wonders why he keeps putting on that silly voice. Likewise, Ivy Bolton, the 47-year-old district nurse who tends to Sir Clifford and fancies herself a cut above, is demoted to being a village girl (albeit a pretty one). Consequently, the class politics are binary, toffs and plebs, with very little of Lawrence’s original point that the postwar world is throwing up all kinds of in-betweeners.
In other ways, though, the new version is wonderfully subtle. In past screen incarnations Sir Clifford, the baronet with a wheelchair, has been rendered so pompous or feeble that Lady C’s decision to choose Mellors is a no-brainer. But by casting handsome James Norton (late of Grantchester) and emphasising Sir Clifford’s insistence that marriage is about daily intimacies and shared goals rather than a bit of rumpy pumpy with the hired help, moral complexity is restored. In fact, you begin to wonder whether Lady C, far from being an adorable free spirit, isn’t actually a bit of a bitch.
Lady Chatterley’s Lover will be shown on BBC1 on 6 September